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RealClearPolitics – Video – DNC Chair: GOP Wants To “Drag Us All The Way Back To Jim Crow”

June 7, 2011

RealClearPolitics – Video – DNC Chair: GOP Wants To “Drag Us All The Way Back To Jim Crow”.

Hey look! Racial demagoguery!

I’d like to say I would be surprised by this.

But don’t worry. It’s just rehashed cries from 2008, when the Tea Party was chocked full of racists hell bent on returning slavery and robber barons into power….

It’ll work about as good as it did in 2008… which is to say it won’t…

And more of the same from Chris Matthews over at the “Lean Forward” network…

When it’s all you got to fall back on…. they grasp on to it, bitterly clinging if you will…

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12 Comments
  1. James permalink
    June 8, 2011 10:57 am

    Craig, craig. Democrats don’t engage in demagoguery. Only Republicans do that. Of course, when Dems do engage it it only because the GOP did it first, which is, of course, a perfectly reasonable reason to do so.

    Ditto with anything else that is “bad”…

  2. Michael permalink
    June 9, 2011 5:38 pm

    You know what is “bizarro”? Romney’s idiot assertions. You know, Germany did pretty well during the down-turn. Why? They paid employers not to lay off employees, and as a result, kept tax revenue coming in, reduced unemployment, and had a faster, more sustained recovery. So is this the lesson we should take from Romney, that if he were president he would eschew anything that might smack of intelligent thought?

    James, as I expect, don’t attack the demagogue when the politics match… Huh. Imagine that. Instead, you create an alternate argument. Nope, no racism ever espoused in the Tea Party, and the hundreds of examples were just plants, yeah, that’s it, they were spies… Sheesh.

  3. Michael permalink
    June 15, 2011 7:25 pm

    Oh, and it ain’t just Democrats saying Republicans have a “race” problem, smart Republicans are saying it too… What I have been saying for years, it is just your “race card” is pale in color:

    http://www.coffeepartyusa.com/stafford-lincoln

    “How did the Party of Lincoln come to such a pass? I think the answer is simple. For far too long, we have refused to confront, and condemn, the vestiges of political racism that have, over the course of the past 30-40 years, found a new political home within the Republican Party. I’m speaking here, primarily, of the movement of the segregationist Dixiecrats (and kindred ideological spirits) out of the Democratic Party, and into the GOP- a movement personified, in some ways, by the late Senator Strom Thurmond. This alliance has poisoned the very soul of American conservatism by tying it to belief systems that are reprehensible, and indefensible. It has permitted a dangerous pathology to survive, and today, at a moment of great social stress, despair, and anxiety about the future, to move back towards the political mainstream. It was, and remains, a fundamental betrayal of the founding ideals of the Republican Party.”

  4. June 16, 2011 8:51 am

    I can’t believe you quoted something from the Coffee Party. Not so much because you can’t or shouldn’t, only that they still have bothered to continue to play like they exist. I’m sure the money being spent on maintaining the website would be better served being spent on something more worthwhile, like buying carbon credits or playing the lottery. But, I do understand that you and their four other readers do expect to be served.

    And once again, I hear the party of grievance-politics who play on divisive race-pimping, giving out handouts and freebies to racial groups based on the color of their skin (not exactly what I’d call a legacy to Dr. King, but hey, when we’re buying whole constituencies based on racial grievances, its for the CHILDREN!™, remember that), claiming that the GOP is RACIST!™

    No one is buying it any more. Perhaps that is why the Coffee Party is about as powerful and important in the political realm as Cub Scout Troop 4454.

    “Today, it is essential that Republicans of good will confront the racists and the xenophobic elements in our midst.”

    Dude. Seriously. Pot. Say hello to kettle, part infinity + infinity + Pi.

    Point out a racist or bigoted statement, or even their past racist/bigoted history, from a Democrat gets the “But look at all they do for minorities, giving them money and healthcare and housing, they CAN’T be racist!” defense. It’d be funny if it was not so pathetic and transparent.

    This Stafford guy is a republican about as much FDR was. And I see we’ve confused, once again, giving away government money through redistribution as being “not racist”.

    This is what I read when I read this Stafford piece. He’s a progressive Republican, who believes that for the party to continue to be “Not Racist”, it must embrace giving things to minorities through government redistributive processes, stop fighting the Democrats on these things, and if they do perhaps they can win over a portion of these groups.

    When the GOP embraces a policy that gets the government out of creating entire racial groups who live on never ending government handouts and “level playing fields” (because, after all, the War on Poverty has been an abject FAILURE) and starts working on simply protecting private property and ensuring that all people are treated equally under the law, then we’ll see a more perfect union.

  5. Michael Eaton permalink
    June 16, 2011 9:11 am

    “I can’t believe you quoted something from the Coffee Party.”

    Actually, the link is from the Coffee Party, the article is from the Cagle Post.

    “you and their four other readers do expect to be served.”

    CP FB Page: 381,173. You are a bit off.

    I swear, every time you read anything that is not pure “tax cuts for the rich/Kill ’em all let God sort ’em out” conservative, your brain adds “redistribution” to the text. How is pointing out that the GOP is turning into (if not already), a shrinking white party say anything about “redistribution”??

    “entire racial groups who live on never ending government handouts”

    Largest racial group getting “government handouts”? Whites.
    Racial group getting the largest government handouts? Rich white CEO’s.

  6. June 16, 2011 9:24 am

    “How is pointing out that the GOP is turning into (if not already), a shrinking white party say anything about “redistribution”?? ”

    Because you’re building a party built on redistribution, and claiming that because the GOP doesn’t believe in it, then it’s RACIST!

    And a “shrinking” white party. Well, then I guess Mike the Democrats won’t have anything to worry about here in the near future, right? I mean, once all of the inbred hicks sleeping with their sisters shrink into the minority, then the Democrats will have permanent control over the two branches of government.

    All the GOP needs to do is become the Democrats, the party of big government promises, and they’ll do just fine.

    When your enemy gives you advice…. watch for the pitfall….

    “Largest racial group getting “government handouts”? Whites.”
    If you mean Medicare and Social Security, last time I checked those were ponzi schemes that people were atleast paying into hoping for the government guaranteed return. But that’ll only be for a little longer, right? I mean, then the “WHITE RACE!™” will shrink into oblivion, or something.

    “Racial group getting the largest government handouts? Rich white CEO’s.”

    Oh wait. I opposed those bailouts also. But nevermind. We were told we had to. For the Children™ if I remember correctly.

    But I see your white guilt is shining through. Why are you a self-loathing white man? Odd. (that’s sarcasm in the form of a rhetorical question)..

  7. Michael Eaton permalink
    June 16, 2011 10:00 am

    “Because you’re building a party built on redistribution, and claiming that because the GOP doesn’t believe in it, then it’s RACIST!”

    Poor analysis.

    “If you mean Medicare and Social Security”

    I also mean WIC, SCHIP, Medicaid, unemployment, food stamps, job training, Pell grants, Sallie Mae lending, etc., etc., etc.

    “Oh wait. I opposed those bailouts also”

    Not talking bailouts… those were tiny compared to the tax breaks, tax incentives, capital gains tax cuts and estate tax give-aways…

  8. June 16, 2011 11:32 am

    “Poor analysis. ”

    Scathing rebuke. I don’t believe I’ve ever had a more laser focused refutation….

    “I also mean WIC, SCHIP, Medicaid, unemployment, food stamps, job training, Pell grants, Sallie Mae lending, etc., etc., etc.”

    Interesting. Please give me a link to the breakdown of federal welfare recipients based on race. Let me know the percentage of the population of each racial group that receives these benefits. I’d be curious to see the breakdown.

    I also expect to see less and less cries of RACISM! as the years go on. And start hearing more and more about THE RICH!™ Especially as it will be a lower percentage of minorities in the ranks of the POOR™, with more and more of those “typical white people”, to quote our President, joining them. Can’t use cries of racism, so it will then revert to cries of socio-economic bigotry.

    “Not talking bailouts… those were tiny compared to the tax breaks, tax incentives, capital gains tax cuts and estate tax give-aways…”

    Only in your world Mike is letting people keep their own money the equivalent of giving it to them.

  9. June 16, 2011 11:38 am

    “CP FB Page: 381,173. You are a bit off.”

    Heh.

  10. Michael Eaton permalink
    June 16, 2011 1:34 pm

    “Scathing rebuke. I don’t believe I’ve ever had a more laser focused refutation….”

    How about this: My party is no more built on redistribution than yours. You know it and I know it, it just is what direction the “redistribution” goes…

    “Only in your world Mike is letting people keep their own money the equivalent of giving it to them.”

    It’s called “national debt” and it on all of us. We’ve been through this before, and it hasn’t changed. Making rich pay less (while getting more of the benefits of being American) means others pay more. Wages are already skewed to the rich (here is an old link, its gotten much more skewed):

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/15/business/15rich.html

  11. June 16, 2011 2:06 pm

    Mike. First of all. The GOP is not my party. Hasn’t been for a long time now. I don’t want corporations or any other business or industry getting a “bailout” or a subsidy (like farmers for making ethanol). Don’t forget it was FDRs New Deal policies that helped to “prop” many industries up, and the congress critters of both parties are lobbied in order to continue such goodies.

    Ofcourse, you won’t acknowledge that anymore than you’ll acknowledge that it ain’t the governments job to support businesses financially any more than its the governments job to support individual American citizens.

    With a smaller federal government actually restrained by its enumerated powers, neither the Democrats or the Republicans will find themselves redistributing ANYTHING. But that’s crazy talk..

    And Mike, you’ve already shown you have a warped understanding of the rich getting “more of the benefits of being American” than say, the poor or middle class. The reason we’re fiscally in a mess isn’t because the rich aren’t paying enough for the interstate highway system that moves their goods. They don’t have to “pay more” simply because they, through luck, preparation, or a combination of both, took the liberty afforded by America to make alot of money. It’s the sickest and most perverted world view I can think of, and is certainly not the “traditional” American dream.

    (Sure kids, you can work hard, take chances and risks, and if you DO make it, the government is going to come and take more of your money because you took advantage of your freedom and liberties! Remember, the federal government helped you to do this… even if they didn’t really do so.. but it sounds good to the plebes who are screaming for your money!)

    Where I do agree with you is that the national debt is on all of our shoulders, and our kids and our grandkids. It’s a clear and present danger.

    Where we disagree is where you believe doubling down on stupid and putting all of our money on Red-32 will somehow get us out of it.

  12. Michael Eaton permalink
    June 17, 2011 8:22 am

    “First of all. The GOP is not my party.”

    LOLZ!! Uh huh. Who did you vote for in 04? 06? 08? 10? In 12? You can keep repeating it, but if you keep the same predictable pattern, your protestations are nothing but words.

    “Ofcourse, you won’t acknowledge that”

    ??? That FDR propped industries? Hell, yeah, I will. It was a proud moment in politics that saved the country! The bank bailout? Important step (but I would like to see some of the bankers in jail for getting us to that point). Auto bailout? Saved a million jobs (conservatively).

    “It’s the sickest and most perverted world view I can think of, and is certainly not the “traditional” American dream.”

    ??? That the rich don’t use more of the infrastructure, level playing field, international treaty protections than the poor? That is perverted?? How do you figure? If the American taxpayer did not put in roads, highways, air traffic structure, shipping lane protections, etc., do you think entrepreneurs would be able to? Hardly. Benefits.

    “the government is going to come and take more of your money because you took advantage of your freedom and liberties!”

    Really? That is the false conservative meme, yet the facts are a bit different:

    “After adjusting for what businesses actually pay, the World Bank ranked the United States 124th out of 183 counties for the highest rate. This means the United States is higher than average, but about a third of the countries tax businesses more. Some of the countries with a real business tax rate higher than here are Australia, Austria, Belgium, China, France, Germany, Iraq, Mexico, Spain, Sweden, Venezuela and Yemen. Some with lower rates are Afghanistan, Canada, Chile, Denmark, Egypt, Haiti, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Russia, Switzerland and the United Kingdom.

    “A side note worth mentioning is overall tax burden. The OECD measures total taxes — for businesses and citizens — as a percentage of countries’ gross domestic product (the total value of goods and services produced). Among the 33 industrialized nations that are members, the United States ranks near the bottom, with only Korea, Turkey and Mexico having a lower tax burden.”

    http://www.rgj.com/article/20110208/NEWS20/102060376/Fact-Checker-U-S-corporate-tax-high-also-full-loopholes

    So take your chances, make your money, and realize that your tax burden just ain’t as high as conservatives would have you believe…

    “Where we disagree is where you believe doubling down on stupid and putting all of our money on Red-32 will somehow get us out of it.”

    Hardly. I just don’t think the way to prosperity is to stop feeding grandma and the kids so that you can put more money in your fourth house which needs a new koi pond. And that doing so is the exact expression of liberty that Hamilton, Madison and Jefferson were fighting for.

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